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IDK THIS IS JUST A RANT U DON'T NEED TO READ IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO *A*
So, :iconmzzazn: posted something on facebook a while ago that I totally agree, actually, we talked about it lots of times, it's about the "copying artstyle shit":

I really don't like it when artists heavily reference or plain out copy others and open up commissions for a much cheaper price than the original artist. Studying someone's art and taking a couple of features may be fine, but if someone looks at an art piece and can say: "wow this looks oddly similar to so and so's drawing style" that means you should change it up a bit.

um yeah, that's not cool! This makes me unmotivated and depressed! I work hard to get better, and I always try new stuff, add details I didn't use to in my drawings etc... just to make it "different"... y'know, my style isn't the same than it was 3 months ago, and  I totally know my commissions aren't the cheapest ones, and that my style isn't the most original one, but I can for sure recognize each detail I put into my drawings! It's unfair, being inspired by someone's art is very different from ''copying''... and when you make money with it, it's even worse... =_=

Sorry gaiz, I just wanted to rant, this just pisses me off so much sometimes...

kissu~
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Aikodea Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I completely agree. You have my support! :thumbsup:
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misskohana Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I totally agreee , but .fhasiudfha . your style is too hard to copy , LMFAO . Tried to imitate it for fuuunn once , mine looked hideous . asdfjklda . I'll just admire yours from a far * . LOL .
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hahah thank you <3
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LevStripes Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i would humbly suggest to kick his/hers ass, sir :)
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miki-light Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
i liked that you said 'sometimes'. You already know they just exist, wannabes and people trying to find "smart" (easy) ways to make money and they need a small rant but even though they try to be as likable as your art is no one, no one that matters, really cares about them, except you a little, but they aren't you and can't make your awesome art from nothing like you do and hell they might be idiots who don't even realize what they're really doing so who really cares, not you.

Keep classy dude.

Peace. :peace:
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ok, thank you for commenting ;v;
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CarishinLove Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I agree with you. Its not a rant at all and you have every right to say something about it if someone is copying your work. I sure as hell would call them out on the spot if I knew someone was copying my work. I dont play when it comes to things like this. Your work is great and you putting all this effort just for someone else to take the credit? Hell no!

I hope that this will stop hopefully soon. If not, I know you have a lot of people who will back you up on this issue.
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ahh thank you :hug:
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CarishinLove Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Youre very welcome
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WithdrawFromReality Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
What is comic art if not an our own expression of life? Is it not our own interpretation of life as we see it? To say that there is a right way to draw this art or to always seek a difference from others, does this not undermine the whole concept of this freedom of expression? Draw life as you see it. Get inspired by artist and the world around you, because all comic art is, is an exaggeration of life. If so, then of course everything will have a similar look. Are we not all drawing the same subjects but in different ways? We are all just 'copying' life.
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ruricho Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
This is so true.
I don't remember if I ever talked about it before but let me tell you, this bothers me a lot too. I know some people who copy their idol %100 to the point that both their art styles are very similar and assuming they're inspired by their idol, doing everything their idol does. If you really appreciate your idol then don't copy their art like some kind of a copy-cat, make your own style, It's better for both of you, right? I know some people who actually quit deviantART because their style is no longer theirs and there's no point from selling commissions when 100 people are copying them and even selling them as cheaper commissions.
What bothers me a lot is that some of them sell commissions with these art styles, it makes the person they copied feel cheap. For example the original artist of that style sells commissions for a reasonable price, and then another person assuming they're inspired by that artist starts copying that style many times to the point that the drawings they draw are very similar to their favorite artist's style, and then selling them cheaper than the original artist's commission, thus he'll get more customers AND watchers. Hey hey!=3 :T
But I feel it's a bit ironic since everyone, no, almost everyone here draws in the anime/manga style. I started off by drawings really crappy animals and anthro and then started drawing anime/manga by drawing the most common style (moe). But even if it's manga and anime, there's something about each ones art that makes it special and different than the others. There's nothing such as "originality" anymore though.
And I've seen your copy-cats, they're everywhere. Poor Dan. Your style will always be yours though, I can easily tell which one is yours and which one is a copy.(:
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for the support baby, you just said everything... :heart:
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ruricho Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
No prob!
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hayden-desu Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
u always got my support bby ;u;
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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DeviantWulf Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know. I don't find it necessarily bad that a style is emulated. You can't really own a style anyway because there's always going to be someone that is similar. It's the same thing with literature and music. Hell, when I was younger, I used a person's style of handwriting because I liked it and it flowed easier for me. It may be the same thing for them. If they just copy your work line for line then yes it's enough to be pissed about.
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I dont find it bad if someone uses an art style as inspiration and have some similarities, the bad thing is when you can't even tell the difference, when that person literally copies you, and sell commissions for way cheaper prices =_=
I can't own a style but I worked hard to develop my own, and it will for sure piss me off if someone literally copy it! Oh well..
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E1kyung Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i totally get what you mean. not naming names, but ive seen a few people here on dA who have definitely had styles similar to yours, perhaps too similar. its kind of sad that people have the gall to call an artstyle they stole their own and bugs me to no end. not sure if the dA admins can do anything about this, but you should ask around. those people have no right to steal your hard work for profit.
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Unfortunately I can't do much than talking to these people or making rant journals like this for these people to see... I'm sure if they see this journal they wil know it's directed to them... at least I hope... thank you for the support!
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lavaquil Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I kind of know how it feels like. Even though I learn from other people's styles, I tend to make it different in my way. But don't feel so hard on yourself.
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're right, there's nothing wrong about learning from other ppl's styles, you're putting your own characterictics into it still and not literally copying it! Thank you!
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NingNinja Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Digital Artist
With so many artists there's gonna be areas where styles overlap. You've become bigger for your style, which in turn justifies an increase in commission prices, whereas the wannabes will need lower prices in order to be able to sell anything.

If I say 'take it as a compliment, they like your style' then it has little weight behind it, because until it happens to me I won't know for sure how I'd take it. If someone profits off a style I create I know it'd bug me. If you look at the big wide world plagiarism is happening on huge scales (not necessarily justified all the time though) like Shepard Fairey who's been in alot of trouble.

Unfortunately there's little you can do about it. This kind of issue relies solely on the decency of people, which it sometimes looks like it comes few and far between now. The most you can do is ask them to stop profiting off your style, and instead use it as a foundation to better themselves.

Good luck :)
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I totally agree, thank you so much!
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NingNinja Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Glad I could be of assistance. :)
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CountChristoph Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   Writer
Though Imitation is a good Way to learn (it's how I learnt to write), but to protest the Copying of a Style for commercial Purposes is quite valid — it shows a great Deal of bad Faith on the Part of the Copyer. You probably have enough People telling you this, though.
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Totally, thank you for commenting!
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CountChristoph Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012   Writer
You're very welcome.
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Tartii Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
UGH YES. IT'S LIKE CHINESE BOOTLEGS.
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
LOL
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Michiyo--Chan Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Concordo! Quem copia muitas vezes não se sente culpado, mas quem é copiado vê todas as suas ideias e criações simplesmente perderem seu valor!
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Exatamente, o que mais me irrita é essas pessoas abrirem commissions por preços muito mais baixos e ainda acionar extras como backgrounds que normalmente não faço em minhas commissions, ja perdi alguns clientes pra essas pessoas por causa disso... fazer o que...
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Michiyo--Chan Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
É... Bando de gente que não pensa nos outros...
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nin-in Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Dan não se importe com esses LATINOS da vida, eles nunca vão passar disso. u.u

bejus :heart:
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Brigado baby! hahaha
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Ryunk Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Parente do Latino /shot

Mas é, migs, é foda. O jeito é mandar pro Alemão [?
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
LOL
Vamos ver se essas pessoas leiam isso e tomem um pouco de vergonha....ffff
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Ryunk Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Foda, foda. /nods
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Yumek0 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
it's hard to say. I learned how to draw by sort of incorporating or "copying" a style. I remember I went through a DBZ phase lol and then Escaflowne, and then I found artists on here that really inspired me and after years of drawing and getting more comfortable at it, I am proud to say I have a style that is all my own. I think if you looked at the art in my gallery you would not be able to say it looks like any one anime series or artist here on DA. I've worked hard to develop my style which is sort of semi-realism with a comic like flare that is neither quite American or Japanese manga. But I know where I started and a lot of people start the same way I did. However, I don't think it would be very kosher to strongly copy another artist's style and then charge for commissions especially at a cheaper rate.
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The same happened to me about the DBZ thing haha;;;
I saw your gallery and yes, you have your own style, that's pretty good! Thank you for commenting <3
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Yumek0 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you for looking at my gallery ^_^
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Drayok Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Maybe it's the same way creators of specific shows/games/books feel when artists make money selling and drawing prints at cons and commissions of their creations? I see lots of people on this site do fanart commissions, that's taking someone else's idea and making money off it :)

Sure, people might argue that they are huge and popular but maybe other artists who are inspired by a person's style feel the same way?

I mean, someone had to invent anime style and disney style and tons of people copy those ^^ no one is totally original anymore.
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Chewikoko Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
The more you are famous, the more you have chance to be a prey ! :B
Perhaps they do cheap comish' because they feel guilty...I mean they could propose for the same price...
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
maybe baby, maybe...
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reborn-gp Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Uma vez eu vi um caso no tumblr. De uma artista que tinha o estilo muito mas muito mesmo parecido com o de uma pessoa popular. Um dia ela postou um desenho e as pessoas automaticamente assimilaram que era dessa artista pop.
Eu me senti embaraçada por ter presenciado aquilo hahahaha. Realmente não é profissional, eu tenho uma artista X que sempre me inspiro no trabalho dela, mas nossos estilos são bastante diferentes, ja que carregamos uma bagagem de experiencia diferente. Sempre tento melhorar e quando vejo trabalhos novos dessa artista eu me sinto inspirada a desenhar mais e chegar aquele nivel de qualidade.
Apesar de ser um Rant, acho que voce devia sim ter uma conversa em particular com essas pessoas, afinal elas estao influenciando o seu trabalho e que pode te prejudicar mais pra frente, saturar sabe.
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
entendo, eu não vejo problema em usar alguem como inspiração, isso pe completamente normal e saudavel, o problema e copiar um estilo ao ponto de as vezes vc nem saber dizer qual arte e de quem... :(
Eu ja conversei com uma dessas pessoas, conversamos amigavelmente, mas infelizmente nao mudou muito, so vi que mudou a color pallete mas os traços sao os mesmos hahah
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Ani-Sempai Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
I've tried out different styles before for maybe like an exercise or something to help me develop my style, but I've never just flat out copied of extremely referanced somebody's work :(
I've seen somebody who does naruto fancomics. I con certainly tell the naruto influence in their original works, but it's not completely copied. If you put them next to each other, you'd be able to tell the difference :)
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes totally, thank you for commenting :hug:
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ikr Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
I'm sorry to hear that D:, but like someone said in other comment, there's much more than just a style behind your and everyone's art (or, in other words, your style doesn't simply consist of a few strokes and type of colouring, but also the poses, the interaction between characters, the composition, etc). Even if they copy your technique, I'm sure they can't copy your 'implicit' style, or your vision of things.
Of course the problem is that they still make money off it, but the moment you start doing commissions you start a business. And in business there's always competition and bootlegs. Soo maybe a good option would be to add a new type of commissions? sketches, coloured sketches, bust up shots... I don't know, something that takes you no longer than 1 hr or 2 to make, and for a cheaper price (proportional to the time you invest in it, of course). It would be an 'economic' option so that people can have a taste of the 'original' thing, in this case your art. I don't know, it's just a suggestion, but whatever you do, I hope you can find a solution soon C:
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danzzila Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, you're totally right! Ahh thank you for the support dear :hug:
I was just thinking about what you suggested, thanks again!
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zephleit Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I get that often too... :iconorzplz:

I understand where they're coming from, and some people do really just copy someone else's art style... but I just hope people would stop and take time to scrutinize our artwork when comparing them to others, AND realize the hard work, effort, skill, time, and years of trying to improve our art just so we can share it to the world.
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